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Tonight's TV
Tonight's TV was all about fate, and whether or not you can fight it.
Instead I am taping Vampire Diaries at that time, but since I am four episodes behind and may never catch up, I think I might start taping FF instead.
I've been thinking, the past few weeks, about how even Supernatural, my current destiny-heavy show, doesn't play around with the concept of predestination as much as Flash Forward does. And while I was really glad that Janis didn't die last week, I thought that the silver-lining of her death would have been to show that destiny is not fixed, that human choices can still change it.
I am sad to have that confirmed by Al's death, though. I really liked his character, dammit! And I thought he was just being all hardcore when he pulled the trigger on the gun in the Blue Hand club, but in the aftermath of his suicide I can see that he was already thinking that his own death would be better than causing someone else's death. And it was foreshadowed, but so well I didn't even catch on to it, with the British agent watching the bird die and being helpless to stop it. Damn, I'm crying again. If they had to have someone die salvifically to prove the future could be changed, couldn't it have been Mark, who still bores me?
I did like the idea that he was dying to save Celia, though, and to keep her two little boys out of foster care. (Did anyone else think that he was going to jump and land on her car or something, and therefore in the very act of trying to save her he would kill her? I'm really glad they didn't go that route.) And at least he has seen many things from the flash forwards come true, so he has cause to believe in them. I'm a little skeptical about the nihilism of the Blue Hand club, because why would the world at large be so convinced everything they saw in their visions was true? It seems pretty far out there, honestly; certainly not grounds for suicide unless you have some evidence.
SUPERNATURAL
I think I probably injured myself from laughing so hard at this episode. The herpes commercial had to be my absolute favorite of the TVland bits, though Dean's obvious crush on Dr. Sexy (plus the shoutout to JDM) and both of them dissing on crime procedurals and spoofing the CSI guys is a close second. And great job with both the laugh track (fairly creepy when they were talking about being trapped in their forever) and the background music at "Seattle Mercy"--that was too funny.
Sam as KITT was also awesome, and I hope is prompting![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
rivkat with interesting ideas for her Impalaverse as we speak. (Though somehow I don't think Dean would ever make indelicate jokes about pulling the holy oil out of Baby's ass).
I think what I loved most about it, though, is the more that heavenly figures tell Dean that destiny is fixed and he and Sam can't change anything, the more he firms his own convictions that he can. I wonder if anything will come of him telling Gabriel to man up and stand up to his family, instead of running and hiding?
Gabriel's speech to Dean and Sam had a little too much of the air of "spelling it all out for the dumb viewers who haven't yet figured it out that there are parallels between Michael/Dean and Lucifer/Sam," but it is an interesting decision to have had Gabriel, of all the angels, run away from home and join the pagans. (This is even more SPN-blasphemous than normal, since Gabriel is the angel who revealed the absolute oneness of God and its corollary, that worshipping false gods is an unforgiveable sin, to Muhammad. Of course, Gabriel is pretty much the only famous angel other than Michael who wasn't on the playing field already, and it speaks powerfully of the disillusionment all the angels are feeling if the one who in several religions is the voice of divine revelation has abandoned heaven). I feel like I want to rewatch Mystery Spot now with the knowledge that Gabriel is an angel, and see if I see anything new about his interactions with Sam.
I really loved his line about not liking pretty-boy angels, though. Hee!
On a more serious note, though, it really is fascinating that they're painting the apocalypse mainly as a family feud, because it makes the existence or non-existence of God fairly irrelevant. But honestly, why would Gabriel want to end things? What is that going to result in, besides an awful lot of dead angels and demons? How is half your family dead better than then being alive and fighting?
Instead I am taping Vampire Diaries at that time, but since I am four episodes behind and may never catch up, I think I might start taping FF instead.
I've been thinking, the past few weeks, about how even Supernatural, my current destiny-heavy show, doesn't play around with the concept of predestination as much as Flash Forward does. And while I was really glad that Janis didn't die last week, I thought that the silver-lining of her death would have been to show that destiny is not fixed, that human choices can still change it.
I am sad to have that confirmed by Al's death, though. I really liked his character, dammit! And I thought he was just being all hardcore when he pulled the trigger on the gun in the Blue Hand club, but in the aftermath of his suicide I can see that he was already thinking that his own death would be better than causing someone else's death. And it was foreshadowed, but so well I didn't even catch on to it, with the British agent watching the bird die and being helpless to stop it. Damn, I'm crying again. If they had to have someone die salvifically to prove the future could be changed, couldn't it have been Mark, who still bores me?
I did like the idea that he was dying to save Celia, though, and to keep her two little boys out of foster care. (Did anyone else think that he was going to jump and land on her car or something, and therefore in the very act of trying to save her he would kill her? I'm really glad they didn't go that route.) And at least he has seen many things from the flash forwards come true, so he has cause to believe in them. I'm a little skeptical about the nihilism of the Blue Hand club, because why would the world at large be so convinced everything they saw in their visions was true? It seems pretty far out there, honestly; certainly not grounds for suicide unless you have some evidence.
SUPERNATURAL
I think I probably injured myself from laughing so hard at this episode. The herpes commercial had to be my absolute favorite of the TVland bits, though Dean's obvious crush on Dr. Sexy (plus the shoutout to JDM) and both of them dissing on crime procedurals and spoofing the CSI guys is a close second. And great job with both the laugh track (fairly creepy when they were talking about being trapped in their forever) and the background music at "Seattle Mercy"--that was too funny.
Sam as KITT was also awesome, and I hope is prompting
rivkat with interesting ideas for her Impalaverse as we speak. (Though somehow I don't think Dean would ever make indelicate jokes about pulling the holy oil out of Baby's ass).I think what I loved most about it, though, is the more that heavenly figures tell Dean that destiny is fixed and he and Sam can't change anything, the more he firms his own convictions that he can. I wonder if anything will come of him telling Gabriel to man up and stand up to his family, instead of running and hiding?
Gabriel's speech to Dean and Sam had a little too much of the air of "spelling it all out for the dumb viewers who haven't yet figured it out that there are parallels between Michael/Dean and Lucifer/Sam," but it is an interesting decision to have had Gabriel, of all the angels, run away from home and join the pagans. (This is even more SPN-blasphemous than normal, since Gabriel is the angel who revealed the absolute oneness of God and its corollary, that worshipping false gods is an unforgiveable sin, to Muhammad. Of course, Gabriel is pretty much the only famous angel other than Michael who wasn't on the playing field already, and it speaks powerfully of the disillusionment all the angels are feeling if the one who in several religions is the voice of divine revelation has abandoned heaven). I feel like I want to rewatch Mystery Spot now with the knowledge that Gabriel is an angel, and see if I see anything new about his interactions with Sam.
I really loved his line about not liking pretty-boy angels, though. Hee!
On a more serious note, though, it really is fascinating that they're painting the apocalypse mainly as a family feud, because it makes the existence or non-existence of God fairly irrelevant. But honestly, why would Gabriel want to end things? What is that going to result in, besides an awful lot of dead angels and demons? How is half your family dead better than then being alive and fighting?
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Ok, I have to remember that not everyone is a hardcore SPN viewer who also reads all the fanfic! It's just that people have been speculating about this for over two years in fic, so to me it feels very much like old news.
Please feel free to offer these "angelic insights" in your reviews more often. I find them very interesting.
I'm happy to do that when I have them, but SPN canon is usually so far from any traditional interpretation I don't know how often that will come up again!