Yeah, see, one of the reasons I DON'T go deep on Pirates is the fact that Elizabeth and the double standard on her character drives me batshit insane. I see it as a case of the creators wanting to have it both ways--wanting her to be a brave new-age 'feminist' hero as well as a traditional heroine. And they end up pulling off neither well. She grates and so I ignore her.

I definitely agree with you about the double standard for this character. I don't hate Elizabeth as much as you (I remember us talking about this when the second movie came out), but I definitely agree that they cheat a lot with her character.

And I also agree that Norrington basically got shafted, though it's not surprising considering how huge the cast was, this time around.

I *am* glad to have seen it on the big screen, though--it was definitely gorgeous.