That last sword-fighting scene was really probably my favorite swordfight in any movie, ever; I absolutely loved how they went BEYOND over the top, and took it all the way into outer space, or whatever the metaphor above "over the top" would be. Oh TOTALLY! I love it when films push things just soooo far that it's completely hysterical. I always think of it as the filmmaker forcing the audience through a speeded up version of the Brechtian stages--you know, apathy, boredom, anger... into HUMOUR!
they're actually setting Norrington up to have more to do in the next film I hope so! They could make a very interesting story with him, which is why I squeed--and like you, I hope the third movie reveals a greater purpose for him; otherwise it's just sloppy characterisation. I think it was fabu who pointed out how we don't know the motivations of so many of the protagonists at this stage. I hesitantly agree--I have Fear that there's some just sloppy characterisation going on, but I will hope for the best!
in choosing faithfulness to Will above Jack, she has inadvertantly convinced Will she is in love with Jack. Since I actually think their triangle is an interesting one (unlike 99% of love triangles in history), I think they might do something worthwhile with this in POTC 3 *nods* I think the triangle is conceptually interesting--I was certainly very glad about the paradox--but it's lacking in spark or sexual chemistry for me, because Keira's such a dead fish. (hmmm! possibly not the best metaphor ever! what was I trying for there?! fish on the brain with this movie!)
I wonder what that will mean for the sequel. I *hope* it means it will have a little more substance and character development, and a little less of the boring action sequences. *nods* Yes, like you and asta77, I found the action sequences really fun, but I still want more substance. I'll keep my fingers crossed!
though don't even get me started on the depiction of race in this movie. Good grief Heh! ;-) Does that mean I can't start on about the depiction of women?! Or should I say 'women', given Keira's androgyny!? *bitchy*
I enjoyed Will a lot more in this movie than most of the other characters Interesting! For me, he was the one with least development in this movie. His interactions with his dad--hmm, well they fell a bit flat for me, as I couldn't see where they were going in terms of character development. But I can see now I was probably just one-eyed for Jack, Jack, Jack and Norrington. I do agree Norrington and Elizabeth could have been given more time (even though I hate Elizabeth), but I also think they didn't succeed (if they intended to) in making Will's story quite as central as they did in the first movie. I was very interested to read that review that read the movies from Elizabeth's perspective--a completely different take to me, but well-argued. But it's really raised in my mind the question of 'who IS the central character/hero?' And I'm irked that we'll have to wait for the third movie to truly find out... or perhaps it will still be unclear--if so, I hope they manage the balancing act of three, or four, different character journeys. Not easy! I'm scared someone's going to be character assassinated in the process.
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Oh TOTALLY! I love it when films push things just soooo far that it's completely hysterical. I always think of it as the filmmaker forcing the audience through a speeded up version of the Brechtian stages--you know, apathy, boredom, anger... into HUMOUR!
they're actually setting Norrington up to have more to do in the next film
I hope so! They could make a very interesting story with him, which is why I squeed--and like you, I hope the third movie reveals a greater purpose for him; otherwise it's just sloppy characterisation. I think it was
in choosing faithfulness to Will above Jack, she has inadvertantly convinced Will she is in love with Jack. Since I actually think their triangle is an interesting one (unlike 99% of love triangles in history), I think they might do something worthwhile with this in POTC 3
*nods* I think the triangle is conceptually interesting--I was certainly very glad about the paradox--but it's lacking in spark or sexual chemistry for me, because Keira's such a dead fish. (hmmm! possibly not the best metaphor ever! what was I trying for there?! fish on the brain with this movie!)
I wonder what that will mean for the sequel. I *hope* it means it will have a little more substance and character development, and a little less of the boring action sequences.
*nods* Yes, like you and
though don't even get me started on the depiction of race in this movie. Good grief
Heh! ;-) Does that mean I can't start on about the depiction of women?!
Or should I say 'women', given Keira's androgyny!? *bitchy*
I enjoyed Will a lot more in this movie than most of the other characters
Interesting! For me, he was the one with least development in this movie. His interactions with his dad--hmm, well they fell a bit flat for me, as I couldn't see where they were going in terms of character development. But I can see now I was probably just one-eyed for Jack, Jack, Jack and Norrington. I do agree Norrington and Elizabeth could have been given more time (even though I hate Elizabeth), but I also think they didn't succeed (if they intended to) in making Will's story quite as central as they did in the first movie. I was very interested to read that review that read the movies from Elizabeth's perspective--a completely different take to me, but well-argued. But it's really raised in my mind the question of 'who IS the central character/hero?' And I'm irked that we'll have to wait for the third movie to truly find out... or perhaps it will still be unclear--if so, I hope they manage the balancing act of three, or four, different character journeys. Not easy! I'm scared someone's going to be character assassinated in the process.