norwich36: (Lex rage blackout)
norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2007-05-29 05:19 pm

recent events

Well, I suppose the good news about the livejournal purge is that it's happening before I shelled out $150 for a permanent account. I didn't have any interests that would have drawn attention, but in solidarity I deleted them all and put "freedom of speech" as my sole interest.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's info here and here and purportedly here, though I can't get fandom wank to load, personally.

ETA Other good links as I find them: here (this is actually the best brief summary of the situation I've seen); here (a list of the deleted communities); here (an easy link to add freedom of speech to your interests); here for a very thorough review of what's going on, list of banned comms and resource list; here for more info on the group behind this and LJ's response; here and here for some suggestions on how we might respond; here for some suggestions on how to get Six Apart to take our concerns seriously, e.g. paid users threatening to leave/mentioning that you won't be buying a permanent account because of this; here for a call to "push back" in response to this; here for some summary of legal issues (and why lawsuits probably won't work as a response).

ETA 2 Since I realize my post was not very informative, the basic gist is: LJ is permanently suspending accounts like [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies that have terms like incest listed as interests, as a result of pressure from some vigilante anti-childporn group. The links above have a lot more detail about this, but that's the short version.

Well, if fandom all decides to migrate, I'm norwich36 at greatest journal as well.
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[identity profile] kristiinthedark.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I like that idea! I have no idea what to do, but that's a good start. And maybe backing up my fic at GJ. *frowns*

Gah. All of this has me confused and pissed. *throws hands up in disgust*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, definitely back up your fic. [livejournal.com profile] seperis had a recent post (I think her most recent) that had a link for backing up your whole LJ.

I saved all my interests in a file, and hopefully will be able to put them back up soon. *Sigh* I HATE that that stupid rumor turned out to be true.

[identity profile] mahaliem.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I was planning on buying a permanent LJ, too. Now I just don't know.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I know! In fact, I was fretting because I was going to be away part of June, and thinking I might miss the sale--and now I'm just not sure what to do. This may all blow over--it may turn out we just have to be more circumspect in listing our interests, to cover LJ's butt legally--or it may turn into a witchhunt. It's hard to say right now. Of course, everyone's talking about moving to GJ but they could end up cracking down, too.

It's most distressing.

[identity profile] sadface.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
http://catrinella.livejournal.com/151812.html?style=mine

That has a lot of stuff, idk, I just swiped it in one of JF's actually working moments >:(

I'm thinking that I blame LJ for the mass hysteria, I mean, it's all well and good saying 'oh, we suspend any community reported to us with interests that promote illegality' and okay, so I assume they mean in an American jurisdiction where I was wholly unaware of such sanctions against fiction. idk. I mean, I can see where people wanna blame those Warriors For Innocence people but given that they've just had a whole bunch of actual paedophile communities shut down which I'm confident LJ could also have managed without much trouble then I can't really find it in myself to condemn them.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that there were actual pedophile comms on LJ is pretty disgusting, I agree.

Thanks for the link--I'll add it to the list up there. This whole thing has somehow blown my plans for the evening, dammit. (Stupid LJ drama, eating my brain.)

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
What the....??? I saw the rumours last week when LJ was having minor blackouts, but ... ? It's for SERIOUS? EEEP! And annoyingly I don't have time to keep track of these things to day. Grrr! Thanks for this links, hon.

(I got a GJ when LJ went down last week--I think I emailed you?)

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if you emailed me or not, but I did friend you over at GJ.

I'm not sure the blackouts were at all linked to this, but the thing about the user interests is correct.

And look what an appropriate icon LJ hook has selected for me! Though every time I edit this entry with more links, it wants to change my icon, which is annoying.

[identity profile] sadface.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
The blackouts were due to some massive Denial Of Service attack, so I read, so I guess it could be a coincidence or it could be that was their phase 1? Though they really seem like hyper-sensitive parents that people who even know what ping is, so.

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Ah! Probably coincidence. Good! Still, I've been meaning to post my back-up contact details to friends anyway, so I did so just in case.

I wish JournalFen would come back. :-( *pokes eet*

D'you reckon it will blow over soon, this to-do?

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hee! That's an adorable icon. I checked my user interests and they were fine, but I deleted that Petrelli icon you made me just in case. :-(((( *sad*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, how sad! I changed a few of my tags that might be slightly open to misinterpretation, but decided not to lock anything that's not already locked, dammit.

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, me lock nothin'. I don't think I'm at risk. And that icon's going back up asap when this blows over. More than anything, I just want to avoid people moseying past and telling me not to use it. ;-p
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[personal profile] danceswithgary 2007-05-30 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the links. Very helpful when my flist imploded.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
You're very welcome!

[identity profile] talitha78.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I deleted them all and put "freedom of speech" as my sole interest.

Cool. I think I shall emulate you. :)

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people commenting on [livejournal.com profile] seperis's journal are doing it too. We should start a movement.

[identity profile] xtremeroswellia.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to decide if I'm in danger of being deleted because I have "domestic violence" "sexual assault" "sexual abuse" and "sexual harassment" listed in my interests. It's certainly not because I support any of these things, it's because I work at a DV shelter for God sakes. *sighs*

[identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? To be safe I think I'd clear your interests for now. You can always put them back later, when this all blows over (she said, hopefully).

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, by the logic that they're using you never know. *Headdesk*
I agree with [livejournal.com profile] manticoran; better safe than sorry.

[identity profile] serenography.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Thank for summarizing everything with those links. I don't *think* I have anything to worry about, but I guess you never know. I don't really want to hassle with starting up a GJ and figuring out how to transfer everything over. I just learned how to put up a mood theme on LJ TODAY. *sigh*

I keed, but I do hope this all just blows over soon.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you locked down already today, right? I'd just check your interests and make sure there is nothing anyone hostile could take the wrong way.

That's a great icon, btw, and very appropriate.

[identity profile] serenography.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no.. I haven't locked anything. Do you really think that's necessary? *ponders*
I will go eliminate my interests though, that just seems prudent in light of how people can apparently track you if they want.

[identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the links - just woke up and am speechless.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was so convinced that rumor was just a rumor, so I was really taken aback.

[identity profile] sadface.livejournal.com 2007-05-31 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Nora :(((((( they've started undeleting all the actual paedo journals DDDDD:

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-05-31 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Wait. So [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies is still suspended, but the real pedophiles are unsuspended? *Headdesk* Good job, LJ. REALLY good job.
:-(

I *must* go to bed--it is after 2 am here. *Tries to stop self from refreshing the news page to read the responses*