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norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2010-12-03 10:53 pm

tonight's tv

Computer update: new computer now won't be delivered until Tuesday, alas. I am doing crazy things with the power cord of this damn mostly dead laptop in the hopes it won't hibernate in the middle of a sentence, but since I don't know how long this will last I'm doing both SV and SPN reactions in one entry and they'll be brief (even though both eps really deserve more analysis)



Ok, starting with the shallow:

1. The magnificent bastard is back, in an even more magnificent incarnation! OMG, I knew the premise of this episode but I didn't know Lionel was STAYING! I'm so excited I don't even know what to say!!

2. Holy crap, I never shipped Clark/Tess before, but I TOTALLY do now--especially dark Clark/red-haired stepchild Tess. What an awesome Luthorcest pairing. Please, please, please, please, please tell me someone is writing this RIGHT NOW. Especially if you throw Lex in the mix (and BRANDING omg). Surely they all faked his death in the alternaworld just as part of some long game with Lionel, and really they're the most awesome Luthorcest threesoe ever, right?

3. And speaking of me cheating on my Clark/Lois love, I adored getting to see Lois with Ollie in the alternaverse, because I really do love that pairing, so it pleases me that it at least exists in another universe.

And for the slightly less shallow

4. I agree with serrico that the "Luthor evil is in the blood" line Clark was spouting at the beginning was out of character for him, but I'm glad he retracted it at the end. In fact, I loved that whole final conversation with Tess, and her discussing her motives for trying to save Alexander because she has no other family. *Squishes Tess*

5. I love when we get to see characters be SMART, so it really pleased me that both Clark and Tess figured out the alternative universe thing and played their roles well so early in the episode. (Tess might have stocked up on the kryptonite--but maybe she did, given that there was clearly a big battle going on when the real Clark beamed back). I thought our Clark did a very good job negotiating the alternaworld given he had no real allies there.

6. The shoutouts to the Lionel-Lex relationship were awesomesauce, especially the swordfight. It was like the best AU fanfic.

7. BRANDING. (Oh, sorry, that's back in the shallow end of the pool.)

8. Ollie as the "evil" tycoon in the alternaverse is fascinating--destroying Smallville to get weapons against Clark. Smart, and a different type of self-sacrificing. (Though I will say I just kind of laughed at how Ollie must be angsty in every universe. He's really NOT Batman, SV writers, even if he is your substitute.)

9. Lionel, setting complicated traps for Clark while quoting Lear. Oh, Lionel, how on earth have we gotten along without your scenery-chewing villainy for so long? And JG, how do you just keep getting SEXIER all the time?





And now, Supernatural.

Starting with the shallow again

1. I really love this incarnation of Meg, and am strangely compelled by the idea of Meg/Castiel. I was very happy that she survived in the end; while I was sorry to see Crowley go, as he has been a good villain, it turns out I like Meg's villainy more. Especially this episode--she was just so droll in her black humor.

2. OMG, that scene of Castiel watching porn (and then using the techniques later) is drawn from a hundred fanfics, and yet it was SO MUCH FUNNIER to watch, as was Dean's response to him.

3. Badass Sam is BADASS. Using his own blood to make a devil's trap? DAMN.

4. Badass Castiel is also badass. I really thought he was bluffing about Crowley's bones. Goodbye Crowley, it was good to know you. (Are we to assume that all the major alphas are dead now? I wonder what the implications of this are for the plot, and if Meg is now going to be queen of hell, and if anyone will still be looking for purgatory.)

Ok, I had more to say but the computer is showing signs of dying again, so I'll stop there for now.

[identity profile] serrico.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
dark Clark/red-haired stepchild Tess. What an awesome Luthorcest pairing. Please, please, please, please, please tell me someone is writing this RIGHT NOW. Especially if you throw Lex in the mix

YES, PLEASE. There's a positive *wealth* of possibility in the various Luthor sibling configurations presented by this ep; the fic possibilities are *endless*. *hopeful*

The shoutouts to the Lionel-Lex relationship were awesomesauce, especially the swordfight. It was like the best AU fanfic

This season, it's like TPTB have decided to just let the ficcers have their way, with both SV and SPN. It's both amusing and disturbing, at the same time! *g*

I hope your technology sorts itself out soon!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

And I have great hopes that we will see a lot of Luthorsib fic based on this episode.
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[identity profile] bientot.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
YES it was a joy to see JG again - he just gets more wonderful all the time! And now that Alexander has grown up - is there ANY chance MR might come back to finish things out in proper style?

Also I agree it was very sad to see Crowley sizzle and burn (but Castiel was SO BAMF!!!!) (and when he said to Cas, "Haven't seen you all season!" I was all FLAIL!!!) but worse still was Sammy looking like he was WALKING AWAY - haven't they learned that's never a good idea????

All in all a great evening's entertainment!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really hoping that MR is coming back too and they're just keeping it super-secret.

It doesn't surprise me at all that soulless Sammy would walk away, but I'm sure they're going to be back together in an episode or two.

[identity profile] serenography.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
When you find that Clark/Tess/Lex story, pleeeease pass it on. Thx. :)

Omg, the Castiel porn and some of his lines tonight were killing me!

Glad you're getting a new computer. I need one too. It's on the list, but it's a really long list right now.

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely will rec the hell out of any good Clark/Tess/Lex fic.

And I see that a lot of people thought the Cas porn stuff was contrived, but I thought it was completely hilarious.

I've really needed a new computer since August, but I was frugal and waited until the black Friday sales.

And yes, I am excited to see you too!

[identity profile] shopgirl318.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
I agree so hard. SV and SPN were both powerful in their own ways. LL was the bastard we all love to hate. Clark/Tess were awesome. I don't ship these 2 either but their scenes are such a guilty pleasure. Is it me or does TW have the most chemistry with Luthor family and same with Lex in season 7 he had a nice chemistry with Kara also. AU Clark was creepy as hell!

Dude you know the amount of fanfic that will pop up based on the AU alone. I can't wait to read. I love SV AU fics when Clark is a Luthor.

I know what you mean about cheating on the Clois but Lois/Oliver AU combo was great. They really suited each other in the AU.

Like you I loved the references to L/L relationship were awesome and Clark's face when he put 2 and 2 together that he killed Lex. Poor baby! I loved at the end that Clark admitted he was wrong if this were an earlier season the writers would have had come back with more accusations and I am glad that the show finally acknoweledged that evil isn't hereditary for Luthors it is more the nature vs. nuture argument. I think Lex went down the path he did because of his parents Lionel and Lillan were horrible in their own ways and he built up his mother on a pedastal so far that he couldn't see what she was truly like. Lex made his own choices 2 but I truly believe if he had an actual support system though he always did destroy the things he loved.

As for SPN. Castiel, Sam and Dean were all BAMF! Even though S doesn't have his soul this season I love how smart, perceptive and the way he cuts through the bs.

Meg/Castiel yes! I tend to ship the angel with everyone but Dean but they have chemistry though. This may be an unpopular opinion for us but I loved brunette! Meg since she showed up in season 5. Different body yet still the same crazy person. :)

It makes you wonder just how messed up the Winchester dynamics are sometimes. Mary made a deal and that led to old yellow eyes bleeding into Sam's mouth then Jessica's death, John's deal, Dean's deal and now Samuel. SD were dead on from these 2 episodes. When does it end? Are they doomed to repeat their family's mistakes? Is it doomed sick cycle going on and on?

Sorry I am rambling. How was computer shopping?

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I am hoping you're right about fanfic popping up soon.

I think the show is very schizophrenic on the Luthors, and their evil is nature or nurture depending on what the script of the week requires.

I didn't like this Meg in her last appearance, but she was awesome this time, and had some really hilarious lines.

[identity profile] lonelywalker.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
they're the most awesome Luthorcest threesome ever, right

Right! Although I have to wonder if Lucas and/or Julian are around somewhere. Or if alt!Lionel had a cloning program too.

Glover was crazily hot tonight. It was just ridiculous. *idly wonders if the writers will get his shirt off somehow*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
If they can come up with a pretext for him to remove his shirt, I'm sure they will. (Preferably in a scene where AOT is also guest starring. Hmm...I wonder what his relationship with Martha was in the alternaverse? Do Martha and Jonathan stay together when there is no Clark?)

[identity profile] lonelywalker.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
They should just do Mercy Part 2.

It would be most interesting if they'd actually had a relationship in the AU, in terms of how AU!Lionel would react to regularverse!Martha. But we'll see, no doubt.

[identity profile] roxymissrose.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The shows both made me very very happy--and SV was even smart this time out! All actors involved acted their little hearts out--everyone was on point. Thomas was the best he's been yet this season.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, he was fantastic--and he had 3 separate roles to play, really.

[identity profile] latxcvi.livejournal.com 2010-12-04 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
OverThere!Lex Luthor isn't dead, Nora. He's running a very long game with his siblings that OverThere!Lionel wouldn't have seen coming because Clark and Tess were distracting him with their acting out. Now that OverThere!Lionel is trapped Over Here, Lex will come out of hiding and rule Over There with his little brother and sister.

That is my story and NO ONE CAN TAKE IT FROM ME.

I agree with serrico that the "Luthor evil is in the blood" line Clark was spouting at the beginning was out of character for him, but I'm glad he retracted it at the end.

SV wouldn't be SV if it didn't often forsake the organic entry into a premise (Tess shows Clark the box, it activates at his touch and then he's accidentally transported) for the histrionic, occasionally characterization-straining one. It's why we love it so. ;-)

I enjoyed this one if I don't think about it too much. Although every second of that last scene between our Clark and our Tess was ACES.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with your (Lex Luthor) theory and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. And really, I'm totally up for a miniseries set in the overthere!verse where we get to see all of this.
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[identity profile] duskwillow.livejournal.com 2010-12-05 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
This episode of Smallville was so good I wish it was a two parter because I wanted more!!! It was brilliant.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, definitely!
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[personal profile] ciaan 2010-12-06 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
http://lust-4sorrow.livejournal.com/76221.html

I haven't read this, but I saw it right after seeing your fic request.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link!