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norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2007-04-26 11:42 pm
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SV: Nemesis

Also known as the BEST EPISODE EVER.



Ok, I had a meeting that ran very late, and then watching the recording of the ep took about two hours because I kept rewinding and watching certain scenes over and over, and now it is very very late, so I think the heavy analysis will come later. This is all just total SQUEE at the BEST EPISODE EVER. Warning: extreme abuse of exclamation points. Proceed at your own risk.


--Clark and Lex's conversations in the tunnels=completely made of win. EVERYTHING we've ever wanted to see, other than actual kissage, right? I mean, Lex is not stupid--he know's Clark's invulnerable, even though he's now confronting disconfirming evidence. And that amazing line about how he NEEDED to believe Clark was special. And they actually have the "secrets" conversation! And instead of denying, Clark practically confirms it by accusing him of just looking for new ways to exploit people with special abilities. And later on, Clark feels guilty because maybe he's made Lex who he is! And he doesn't want to give up on Lex!

--And Lex saves him! Even after Clark thinks he has abandoned him (Lex! Lex!) Thank goodness, by the way, because I really needed to see some humanity in Lex again after last week, and we got that in spades. Yay! He saves Clark, and then Clark saves him--very reminiscent of Jitters, actually, only this time Lex actually is responsible for the crazy person taking him hostage--but I thought Clark having to hold him as they're climbing the ladders, even though he only has human strength, was a direct callback to Jitters.

--And yet, though Lex has been rehumanized for the audience (and Clark), he's still doing the master villain stuff, too, as we see at the end of the ep, which is the best of both worlds, as far as I'm concerned.

--And omigod, Lana completely kicked ass in this episode. I LOVE that she's completely gotten her Luthor on: threatening Lionel, and then coolly acquiring the suitcase, and shooting off the locks, and finding the tunnels, and then DOING NOTHING (and omg, the look on Chloe's face when she realized what Lana had been doing, or more accurately not doing, was priceless), and then BLACKMAILING Lionel, and then--that scene with Lex--just insert gibbering noises. I was absolutely screaming with glee at how well she played Lex in that scene, how every single thing she said was a dagger deliberately aimed at him, and a couple of them apparently struck home. I guess Lionel convinced her that Lex is a threat to Clark so she's going to continue playing him? And as far as I'm concerned, she can Lady MacBeth her way through all of next season, because I completely love this incarnation of Lana.

--And Martha! Finally we got to hear what she was thinking about Lionel, and I have to say I'm very glad she's not trusting him. And thank goodness Clark brought up the Lex-Lionel parallels in that conversation, because it was really about time.

--Oh, I almost forgot about Chloe, and that priceless bit where she's calling Clark "like a stalker ex-girlfriend, not that I was ever your girlfriend, it was just an analogy." Hee hee hee! I thought that was hilarious.

I love my show SO VERY MUCH. And next week looks fabulous too.

[identity profile] isilweth.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
*loves your exclamation points*

Word to your SQUEE! Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Hee! Your squee is so much more articulate than mine. :-)

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! And I think your squee is plenty articulate. YAY SMALLVILLE!!!!! SMALLVILLE FTW!!!!!!!

[identity profile] justforspite.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
agrees with everything! [retreats back into my squee cloud]

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't it exciting to have an episode everybody loves? YAY!!! *Squees some more*

[identity profile] huzzlewhat.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes. This episode was, I think, perfect. I can't think of a better one in the entire run of the series. Every character was firing on all cylinders, and it was just delicious, beginning to end. Lana just blew my effin' socks off last night.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
YES!!! I swear, I get all inarticulate trying to express how much this episode seriously ruled. (I watched all the Clex scenes and all the Lana scenes at least 4 times each, in part to get the dialogue down, because it was excellent). And I think I'm going to rewatch the whole thing again when I get home tonight.

All of these Lana converts make me giddy. KK is so amazing at doing evil Lana, and this is the Lana I've wanted to see all season long, so I was in heaven. And the Clex! And John Glover, looking hot even while in a hospital bed, and Lionel once again straddling the line between potentially good guy and puppetmaster!

Incoherent gibbering noises, I swear.

[identity profile] amandajane5.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't believe it that I was actually *enjoying* the freaking LANA-SCENES last night!! It's true, when she's bad? She's better!

And totally, fanfic come to life and lo, it was of the awesome!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It was completely fanfic come to life, minus the happy ending where Clark and Lex hook up of course. And I agree that evil Lana is awesome! (I've always loved that icon, by the way).

[identity profile] serenography.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg...See? This is why I heart you so much. I was blown away by this ep, but it's so great to see others love it for many of the same reasons I did. I do laugh at all the people who are *shocked* that they liked Lana in this. For me, I'm *shocked* that I found that brief Chloe scene you mentioned absolutely adorable and endeared me to her more than ever before. LOL... I have a lot of thoughts I hope to write about this ep later tonight. RL is getting in my fandom way again!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know what you mean about Lana. I mean, she completely blew me away, but she's been doing that all season--it's nice to see other folks appreciating her for a change, though.

Really, I can't imagine a way that last night's ep could possibly have been better--or given us better character stuff from *everybody*--unless there had been actual sex involved. Or nudity. :D
Well, I guess maybe they could have fixed the timeline problem (this episode reminded me of "Hidden," where we had the longest hour in world history, only in this case it was the longest 20 minutes in world history--but otherwise, a completely perfect episode.

[identity profile] c-mantix.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Yes. *uh huh* I concur. Yep. *nods*

Lana was outstanding! I loved Chloe's and Clark's faces when they found out about her not lifting a finger to help Lex. *squeeeeee* The Clex was wonderful, too. A very well-paced, well-controlled episode.

If this is hints at the quality of the last episodes of the season, it's going to be quite a ride:)

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow, if the rest of the season is this good, I may explode with happiness! (I must now reduce my expectations, since having expectations when it comes to SV is never a good thing).

But nothing can diminish how great this episode was!!
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[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's filmed in widescreen? I can't tell on my very ancient tv. I guess I'm just not as attuned to these sorts of things.

[identity profile] acampbell.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry we didn't get TunnelSex! and I have some concerns, but am looking forward to a rewatch tonight. Yeah!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is too bad that there will never be an ep where Clark on RedK kisses Lex, or something like that (damn advertisers don't know women want 2 men kissing the way men want 2 women kissing), but since I wasn't really expecting tunnel sex I really enjoyed what we got!

[identity profile] theclexfactor.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes! When Clark was holding onto Lex on the latter, I literally said out loud "JITTERS!!" because it was once again Clark at half strength using his "adrenaline" to pull Lex up. It looks like SV finally hired a writer that has actually seen an episode of SV prior to S4. This episode was made of win and I can't wait to watch it again.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I can't wait to rewatch it again with "Jitters" in mind, because that really only occurred to me in the last scene on the ladder. I guess the advantage of having a show with almost no continuity is that when you do get it, it's very exciting! :P
ext_1774: butterfly against blue background (Bound Together -- Lana and Lex)

[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That really was fantastic! All of the Big Three were amazing, but Lana was just so spectacular. The way she took all those things that she used to use subconscious and innocently and just manipulated and covered and worked with them... it blew me away. She was so incredibly smart in this episode, too. She's always been clever, but this is the first time we got to see her think so quickly on her feet and use what she knows.

And I loved seeing the difference between Clark and Lana/Chloe's morality. Chloe brings up the idea of maybe not saving Lex. Lana sits on the info to save Lex until she needs it to save Clark. Neither of these things thrill Clark. This is a very good, solid reason why Clark and Lana could never actually work out in the end -- Clark couldn't live with the things that Lana would be willing to do.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The way she took all those things that she used to use subconscious and innocently and just manipulated and covered and worked with them... it blew me away. She was so incredibly smart in this episode, too.

Oh yes! This reminds me of a conversation I had after last week's episode, I think maybe with [livejournal.com profile] huzzlewhat, about Lex using his past losses to manipulate people, straddling the line between sincerity and manipulation, but Lana's learned to do this much more rapidly and I think maybe even more effectively. It was fascinating to watch.

And I loved seeing the difference between Clark and Lana/Chloe's morality. Chloe brings up the idea of maybe not saving Lex. Lana sits on the info to save Lex until she needs it to save Clark. Neither of these things thrill Clark. This is a very good, solid reason why Clark and Lana could never actually work out in the end -- Clark couldn't live with the things that Lana would be willing to do.

Yes, and those scenes were interesting, because both Chloe and Lana had very valid reasons to be angry with Lex this week, so they were actually I think representing the more human perspective and Clark got to present the heroic perspective, which is always nice to see. Though I've seen a certain amount of criticism of Lana for sitting on the plans while just waiting for Lex to die, and while that certainly seems to be what that scene with Chloe was implying, if you actually do the math with the timeline (that bomb timer was set for 20 minutes, wasn't it?) or even just watch onscreen, Lana had *just* discovered the schematics to the tunnels right before Chloe walked in, so it's not like she had even really had time to make a definite decision to leave Lex there.

[identity profile] latxcvi.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
but Lana's learned to do this much more rapidly and I think maybe even more effectively. It was fascinating to watch.

No, she's always been able to do this -- it's how she made off with a $160,000 car of Lex's in Void last season and it's what she used against the stalker in Trespass. This is just the first time where she's done it multiple times in one episode and with an array of people.

Lana had *just* discovered the schematics to the tunnels right before Chloe walked in, so it's not like she had even really had time to make a definite decision to leave Lex there.

You know, I actually thought it was odd that Chloe characterized it that way to Clark, to the point that I just read it as Chloe projecting her own feelings onto Lana, because you're right about the timeline. But then I decided to give it a pass because while I knew that Lana had only discovered the schematics right before Chloe walked in, Chloe didn't necessarily know that. From her perspective, it could have looked like Lana'd been ruminating over them for a while.

[identity profile] latxcvi.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
No, she's always been able to do this -- it's how she made off with a $160,000 car of Lex's in Void last season and it's what she used against the stalker in Trespass. This is just the first time where she's done it multiple times in one episode and with an array of people.


I didn't mean to sound pedantic, btw. I was just noting that Lana's always had this capacity and she has used it in the past. This is just the first time we've really seen her use it a lot in one ep and with many different people (Lionel, the doctor, the two deputies, Lex).

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No, she's always been able to do this -- it's how she made off with a $160,000 car of Lex's in Void last season and it's what she used against the stalker in Trespass. This is just the first time where she's done it multiple times in one episode and with an array of people.


Oh, no worries--that's actually a very good point. We've definitely seen her manipulate other folks with her own pain before; just never quite so effectively, I think. Really, my favorite part about this whole storyline, long may it continue, is that it is actually building on organic components of Lana's character, just changing her motivations a little bit and amping up her reasons to draw more on the less savory parts of her character.

[identity profile] mailerose.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The squee... GENUINE squee! The f-list is such a happy place now!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY! It really is nice to see, that's for sure.

[identity profile] preciosatt.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This was SO awesome. I loved Lana (which is rare) and I hope to god that they don't take the character backward. She's so much more interesting as a Luthor.

My question is, is Clark going to try to regain his friendship with Lex or will he take Martha's advice of water under the bridge.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I fear, alas, that there's no way in canon that Clark will try to regain the friendship--but I do think part of purpose of the episode is to have Clark re-examine some of his assumptions about Lex now that he's mature enough to see things differently, and realize that his choices did affect Lex. (Not that I'm holding Clark responsible for Lex's choices, but he is responsible for evaluating his *own* choices vis-a-vis Lex).

[identity profile] herohunter.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
YES!! The CLEX ruled!! The kissage WAS the only thing missing!!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay for the Clex! It was really about time they gave us an episode like this!!!

[identity profile] ros-fod.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Lana completely kicked ass in this episode.

She really, really did. I had so much fun watching her. I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT. And I loved how everything she said to Lex at the end were truths that were just twisted to mean something else -- that she was lying with the truth. It dovetails so beautifully with all the other truths and lies in this episode. They're playing around a lot with secrets and revelations this season, esp. with all the Luthors where you can't tell exactly who is the puppetmaster anymore (versus the earlier seasons where it was so obviously Lionel). I'm loving every minutes of it.

You know, a woman wrote this epsiode. AN OBVIOUS SLASHER. *g*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This woman should SERIOUSLY get to write more episodes.

My love for Lana in this episode cannot be textually rendered. The fact that she's adopted my favorite Lex (and Lionel) technique of lying by telling the truth is awesome.

[identity profile] ros-fod.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
L IS FOR LUTHOR.

*glee!*

[identity profile] cinderella81.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OMFG! This ep just totally rocked!! Clark caught the clue bus!!! Love that Martha doesn't trust Lionel, cuz she totally shouldn't!!

Is it next Thursday yet? *bounces*

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! And I really can't wait for next week--the preview looked really fun.

[identity profile] latxcvi.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, I LOVED IT WITH THE FIRE OF A THOUSAND KRYPTONIAN SUNS. AND YOU KNOW I RARELY TALK ABOUT THINGS IN ALL CAPSLOCK. BUT IT WAS JUST THAT GOOD.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

*Squees with you*
ext_2583: "Lady Agnew" by John Singer Sargent (Clex OTP)

[identity profile] mskatej.livejournal.com 2007-04-27 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*JUMPS YOU UP AND DOWN*

Lana was super cool and *quite scary*. I'm not sure whether she was considering letting Lex die, but I AM sure that she *hates him now*. Last week I said that I wanted to see how Lana would exact her revenge but this was WAY BETTER THAN I WAS EXPECTING.

Loved it loved it loved it.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-28 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The stupid "fake baby" plotline is worth it for me just to see Lana go EVIL. I'm very very happy that they're going there.

*TWIRLS YOU AROUND*

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-04-28 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
*SQUEEEEEEEE*

EVERYTHING we've ever wanted to see, other than actual kissage, right?
YUP!

I have to say I'm very glad she's not trusting him. And thank goodness Clark brought up the Lex-Lionel parallels in that conversation, because it was really about time
Yup! I loved that heaps. It was a huge relief to hear that from Martha about Lionel. I really needed to know how she saw their friendship and how she justified it, and this has put me at ease. And I agree about Clark FINALLY raising the Lex-Lionel parallel--though in another way, how major is it that he does so?! Yeah, Lionel courting Martha is exactly like Clark's friendship with... Lex. The subtext ain't so SUB.

I'm sure I'll also have a lot more to say later. But I just found out that the auction's been cancelled (?! but yay!) so I'm off to celebrate. Whee!

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2007-04-28 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup! I loved that heaps. It was a huge relief to hear that from Martha about Lionel. I really needed to know how she saw their friendship and how she justified it, and this has put me at ease. And I agree about Clark FINALLY raising the Lex-Lionel parallel--though in another way, how major is it that he does so?! Yeah, Lionel courting Martha is exactly like Clark's friendship with... Lex. The subtext ain't so SUB.


Oh, totally! I meant to comment about that on your review, but I had meetings all day yesterday so I was composing comments very, very quickly in breaks in between. :D But yeah, making that parallel explicit is very slashy. But it also makes me very happy about Lionel--I like wariness combined with hope for *Mionel* reasons, because, dammit, if Clexers can hold out hope for Lex, at least fanonically, I don't have to feel guilty about doing the same with Mionel.

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2007-04-29 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
You should have no guilt. There is great Mionel potential--and far more so after hearing Martha articulate a coherent position on the matter. I've been worried that she's been at the mercy of the writers recently, but this has given me some hope that there's direction for her in the overall plot.