Very important questions

[norwich36]

For those of you in SPN/J2 fandom, 2 important questions:

1. Did the hot doctor that Sam sleeps with in "Sex in Violence" survive the episode or not? This came up in the context of a debate over whether or not everyone who sleeps with Sam ends up dying, and I can't actually remember what happened to her, but I thought she didn't die.

2. Why is it fanon that Chad Michael Murray is a douche? (Often a loveable one, to be sure)? Is this simply based on his predilection for sleeping with/marrying barely legal women, or is there something more than that?

Comments

[mecurtin.livejournal.com]

The Go Fug Yourself gals think CMM is an internationally-ranked douche, so I figure he probably is.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks!

[lycanthrophile]

Re #1 - she lives. There's even a conversation at the end between Dean and Sam on if Sam's going to go and say goodbye. Dean's surprised that Sam's not going to bother.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Thank you!! I thought she had lived, but I couldn't remember for sure.

[mkitty3.livejournal.com]

The doctor lived. There was a bit at the end where Dean suggests Sam go say goodbye to her and he brushes that idea off.

I think a lot of the Chad douchey stuff came from the MTV reality series about the making of House Of Wax. You can find downloads HERE (http://community.livejournal.com/dean_sam/46064.html). He has several diva moments over wardrobe and such. At one point Chad insinuates that Jared is fooling around on Sandy with Paris Hilton, when in reality it was Chad fooling around and cheating on his future wife with Paris. I don't know if all the Chad bits are included in those downloads though. I haven't seen them in years.

ETA: Nevermind. Those links are dead. Sorry!

[ciaan]

Psssh, we posted the same thing at the same time.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Thanks--I'll troll around youtube and see if I can find links that are still active. And wow, yeah, that is pretty douche-y to accuse someone else of cheating if he was doing it himself.

[ciaan]

I think CMM is a douche due to watching the House Of Wax behind the scenes things. An amusing one, but still. If you have not seen Nutclops, you must.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Oh, I had heard of Nutclops, but I didn't realize it was based on a true story. Clearly I need to see this stuff. (Is it on the House of Wax DVD, or do I need to start searching youtube?)

[ciaan]

I've never seen HOW. But there was some MTV reality show about the filming of it, and that's what I've seen clips of. If you can't find them on YouTube or anywhere I can upload them for you, uh, not today because I'm going out, but in a bit.

[ethrosdemon.livejournal.com]

Ok, so in S1 of SPN before J2 had been set as the default pairing, there was a lot of fic where Chad AND Jared were both sort of douchey bffs. Somewhere a long the way Chad became the douchefoil to Jared's awesome. Or something.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Oh, interesting! I didn't really get into the fandom until after season 2, so I didn't realize that.

[allzugern.livejournal.com]

I went back and watched. She appears to be alive at the end. I still say she's been touched by the dick of death and therefor done for. Jess and Ruby didn't die right away either, so we'll just have to wait and see :-P I would laugh my ass off though if they brought her back for an episode just to kill her off!

I think Chad became labeled a douche because he was boffing Paris Hilton during the filming of House of Wax while he was together with / got engaged to Sophia Bush. Douchy behaviour.

[norwich36.livejournal.com]

Thanks--I had heard about the Paris Hilton thing, but the problem with reading RPS is I often don't know if something is true or just fanon.