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norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2009-10-01 10:29 pm

Supernatural: The End

Spoilers, obviously.

Top 10 Things I loved:

10. I just have to say it: you know it's the apocalypse when Sarah Palin is president.

9. Future Chuck seeming sober and helpful and generally useful-guy-to-have-in-apocalypse. Way to turn yourself around, Chuck!

8. Future!Castiel is so damn hilarious! Though I have to say, I actually liked best the juxtaposition between orgy!Cas and right-hand man!Cas, the gun-carrying backup man. If he had only been the stoner orgy guy, that just would have been a kind of weak stereotype, but I kind of like the way this Cas really is modelling his humanity on Dean, both the good points (defense of humanity) and the bad points (why not bang a few gongs before the lights go out--especially since it seems like Dean is banging multiple gongs in the camp himself).

7. Future!Dean as the leader of the community, the one everyone defers to, making the tough decisions. Damn, he was HOT. And I was simultaneously very proud of him, and very very sad that the future had made him into the guy who could make those decisions like killing a friend with no warning and sending other friends in as distracting canon fodder and killing whatever might be left of his brother in order to kill Lucifer. (Actually, I have a hard time believing Dean ever really could make that decision--maybe that's how Lucifer got the drop on him?)

6. Speaking of which, I loved the conversation between FutureDean and PresentDean about Sam's "death," because you could see how completely shocked PresentDean was that FutureDean hadn't been there when Sam died, or talked to him for 5 years, even though he had just had the conversation in which he told Sam they were each other's weakness and should probably move to separate hemispheres. Clearly Dean doesn't really believe his own advice; when push comes to shove he wants to be with Sam if Sam's in danger. (More on that below)

5. If I might continue in the FutureDean/PresentDean vein for a bit (and that slash is deliberate--I hope someone is already writing them together as I am writing this review!), I love how well Dean knows himself--apologizing for undercutting FutureDean's authority, knowing when he wasn't telling the truth, all of that stuff. Umm. Not to mention it's now canon that Dean likes wearing women's panties.

4. Lucifer!Sam was hot, persuasive, and rocking the whole "I'm really a good guy, you should trust me" vibe. Damn, JP, the way your acting has grown since season 1 continues to impress me. Though I also have to say I was impressed with Dean completely not buying his line of bullshit, saying he was the same kind of cockroach Dean always hunted except with a bigger ego.

3. Holy suspense, batman! Very rarely am I actually scared for Sam or Dean when it's not actually a season finale, because I watch episodic TV and know the leads are not going to get killed off or have really bad things happen unless it's the end-of-season cliffhanger--but in this episode there were 2 moments when I was really scared for Dean: when he first woke up in the future and the "Croats" were all chasing him (nice action adventure, there, SPN!) and then we he returned and there was a minute there when I really thought he was going to say yes to Michael, because it looked like the only possible option.

2. Present!Dean, holding onto hope and faith in Sammy even though the future looks hopeless--because that's the right decision, I have to believe that. I refuse to believe that Lucifer is right and all roads lead to him standing over Dean's dead body, because despair is the ultimate sin, dammit.

1. That conversation between Sam and Dean at the end. I know a lot of people were upset at the idea that Dean might only get back together with Sam because he was afraid otherwise Sam would give in to Lucifer, but I think that speech made it clear that Dean is doing this for both of their sakes: because there's only hope for remaking the future if they're together. And "we keep each other human" is telling. I think Dean was really shaken by his future self, not just the future world--that he had gone back to torturing, for example, or that he would turn his friends into canon fodder, and even more than that, that things without Sam had gotten so bad his future self would be begging him to turn into an angel condom. I really believe that together they can avert the apocalypse. (*Claps hands and hopes this means Castiel gets his wings back. Or something.*)

0. Can I do a number zero? I just remembered one more thing: I loved that it was Sam that first made the overture about coming back, and I really liked the fact that he framed his quest to kill Lucifer not as revenge but as redemption.

Oh, and I'm not going to spoil the teaser for next week, but I will say it made me laugh and laugh.
ciaan: (ride an Impala)

[personal profile] ciaan 2009-10-06 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, he was HOT. And I was simultaneously very proud of him, and very very sad that the future

YES. He was a jerk but it was utterly understandable due to how he was broken, and he had finally learned how to be in charge and that was indeed hot. In a Dean/Dean fashion, too. And also perfect at the end when Dean was all "I won't let you" and future-Dean punches first.

Sam&Dean together. The only hope for the world. I have faith. And I am really glad that they got back to that point.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read a lot of codas to this episode (I haven't seen an ep produce so many codas since "Mystery Spot"!) and wow, the consensus seems to be that FutureDean is way beyond damaged. Which is not exactly how I read him. Yes, he was broken and kind of a jerk, but really in ways that just exaggerated flaws Dean has in the present. (This is not really in response to what you said, I know--your comment just gave me a convenient opportunity to rant about people making futureDean into a dograping babykiller. Or more accurately, a Castiel and/or pastDean-raping minion of hell.) But futureDean also had presentDean's leadership ability and drive exaggerated as well, and those are generally good qualities.

Anyway, I totally believe Sam and Dean can save the world if they work together.
ciaan: (the mountains rose up to the sky)

[personal profile] ciaan 2009-10-06 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
rant about people making futureDean into a dograping babykiller. Or more accurately, a Castiel and/or pastDean-raping minion of hell.

I haven't been keeping up with fic at all, but pssshaw. He wasn't mean for kicks. He was tough because he had to be. He would only have been raping anyone if it was what was necessary to kill Lucifer. And he probably wouldn't even have enjoyed it. Poor guy. ....Which is a sarcastic way of saying that he pretty much had nothing left. Sigh. Dean turned up to 11 with the dark filter on.

We've come a long way since the day Dean first shot a possessed guy, when it was a huge line for them to cross. But I do love how the story has NEVER stopped saying that such things are wrong and a big deal, even as we can watch the characters get desensitized. The bodies pile up and our good guys do bad things, which are admitted to be bad, but they are still good guys, and we can condemn and yet sympathize all at the same time. I don't think there's any apologetics, any "but it's okay when THEY do it, because the hero is always right." These heroes are wrong wrong wrongity wrong, yet still heroes. It's a tough balance and I think the show does it well.