norwich36: (Chlark forever)
norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2006-05-03 05:41 pm

Poll results

So, judging from my poll , nearly half of you think Clark is either an incompetent lover or very, very gay, because 14 of 29 respondents said that Lana didn't have orgasms with Clark. Despite this, about half of you (I hope not the same half?) think Clark and Chloe should get together next season. That doesn't seem like a nice thing to do to Chloe!! Seriously, though, I didn't realize I had such a large Chlark contingent on my flist. (Gives me an excuse to use my Chlark icon, though).

The other half of you think Chloe should get a guest superhero of her very own to have sex with, an idea I highly approve of. I actually voted for this option, because I think Chloe is over Clark and I'd prefer that she not get sucked into another doomed romance with him, even if I do think they are cute together.

I was interested in how few people said Chloe and Lex should hook up, given that in my Lex dirty sex poll from last week, when I asked about non-Clex pairings, Chloe was the number one person people wanted Lex to have dirty, dirty sex with. (Lionel came in second, and third place went to Martha).

I was actually surprised by the high number of people--a little over a third of poll takers--who thought Martha and Lionel had an affair back in season 2. And as for whether Lex and Lana have hooked up yet, most people said no, though you were very divided as to why. Also, my flist doesn't really approve of Lexana, or at least almost half of you said it made you sick to your stomach, almost twice as many as said that Mionel made you sick to your stomach.

[identity profile] theclexfactor.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
But why would Lana keep begging Clark to fuck her if she never orgasmed with him? I know I wouldn't keep asking for more from a guy that couldn't get me off. I mean, yeah, Clark is gay, but hell, he knows how to find Lex's spot, why not Lana's? I can see him not being as into it (as is evidence by the fact that he found many excuses NOT to do her again), but Lana wouldn't notice because she's all "me, me, me, god yes, me!". Okay, now I'm just Lana bashing. Someone take away by stick. (Of course this is all because I actually like Clark in spite of what everyone else says, so I'm giving my boy some leeway.)

P.S. Lexana sucks ass. I don't even ship Chlex, but that pairing would make me far less ill.

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I know I wouldn't keep asking for more from a guy that couldn't get me off

You're too self-assured to be Lana. Lana is supposed to be the Good Girl, so even when she has sex -- which she only has with her True Love -- she doesn't have it because she has any sex drive of her own, that would be *icky*. No, she has sex to prove that the guy loves her. Or because she's under the influence of drugs, alien possession, etc. *gags*

I hate this attitude, but it's extremely common, and I think that's how we're supposed to read Lana. Oh, and we're also supposed to assume that she won't orgasm (if she did such a thing) except by vaginal penetration, so of course she has to beg Clark to fuck her if she's ever going to get off at all. But I think her begging is supposed to be for "sex as a sign of Clark's Lurve", not for sex to give *her* sexual satisfaction.

I think I shall go put on my Godzilla suit and stomp around in rage, now.

[identity profile] theclexfactor.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Interesting. I guess I gave Lana too much credit, which is odd because I never give her any credit whatsoever.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
she has sex to prove that the guy loves her. Or because she's under the influence of drugs, alien possession, etc.

There is canonical support for that in season 4, I agree, when Lana basically offers to have sex with Jason to prove her love--but I don't think that is my reading of Lana's requests for sex with Clark. It's not so much "sex=love," but "sex=intimacy/closeness." In season 5, Lana and Clark have sex when he is mortal and therefore feels he doesn't have to hide from her/ he can disclose himself to her. But then he becomes superpowered again, and withdraws from her both emotionally and physically--he won't even "seriously kiss her," as she complains in one episode.

I put that "orgasm" option in the poll as a joke, but my own explanation (as I have belatedly commented to [Bad username or site: the clexfactor @ livejournal.com] is that virginal guys don't tend to have great sexual skills, and canonically we only *see* evidence that they had sex twice. So it's possible Lana was hoping Clark's skills would improve with practice.

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not so much "sex=love," but "sex=intimacy/closeness."

I'll buy that, but my point is that in neither case would Lana (un-mentally-altered) have sex for the sake of her own sexual satisfaction. Because she's supposed to be Pure Like That.

Or she's still pining for Chloe. I can do that.

reposted to fix many dumb grammatical mistakes

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Reposted to fix grammar, since tiredness seems to be making me lose my grip on the English language:

I think Almiles are schizophrenic about sex in the way that much of America is: using sex to sell things (like lots of nekkid Clark to improve ratings)=good; actually enjoying mutually consenting sexual exchanges for pleasure (like Lex in "Bound") =bad.

Now, however, it looks like Lana is going over to the gray side by working with Lex, so that may mean she and Lex are in fact going to get to have a lot of sex.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I didn't realize I hadn't responded to this until today!

But why would Lana keep begging Clark to fuck her if she never orgasmed with him? I know I wouldn't keep asking for more from a guy that couldn't get me off.

Well, considering that Clark was canonically a virgin, it's safe to assume that he will get better with practice. But ONLY with practice. So my assumption would be that Lana wanted him to practice on her so his technique would improve.

[identity profile] theclexfactor.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Clark was a virgin?! HA! Whoever believes that is seriously whacked. I don't care what Alan Miles says, or "canon" says, Clark has had so much sex it's not even funny. Especially (or only) in his Red phases. That summer in Metropolis? Please. Clark wasn't saving himself for anyone. Clark is a big horny bastard (and I love him.) Now, when the ring came off was another story. Maybe normal-not-smoking-the-big-Red-joint Clark was a virgin, but Red!Clark? Not so much.

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm perfectly prepared to believe that Kal had very little sex with *women*, though I think we're supposed to gather that he had a sexual encounter with whatsername, who he was going to run away with after "the best night of my life", but that it didn't include intercourse and so "didn't count" for virginity purposes. Just like all his other RedK-fueled sex. *rolls eyes right out of head*

[identity profile] theclexfactor.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm perfectly prepared to believe that Kal had very little sex with *women*,

Okay, I'll give you that. But I find it amazing that Alan Miles (and America for that matter) have no problem with a Superman that has been hooked on drugs, robbed banks, and did some general assault and battery without provocation, but he has to remain a virginal...let's think and talk about that...