norwich36: (Lex don't fuck with me)
norwich36 ([personal profile] norwich36) wrote2006-05-11 09:21 pm
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SV "Vessel"

Hmmm. I'm not sure *what* I think.

Ok, to start with the THINGS THAT FILLED ME WITH MURDEROUS RAGE:

If we are really supposed to think that it is Lionel spouting platitudes about the darkness inside of Lex, both to Lex and to Clark--well, fuck. That made me mad enough to wish that Lionel was actually dead after Lex threw him against the car--and as you all know, I love me some Magnificent Bastard. But NOT self-righteous sanctimonious bastard, thank you very much. (And even though it would have been anticlimactic, how funny would it have been after all the sturm-and-drang "you will kill your father" foreshadowing, if Lionel had died after Lex threw him, so it all would have been an accident?)

However, I have a slight theory--I need to see if it's supported on rewatching--that it wasn't actually Lionel during those scenes, it was Fine-onel, since we now know that he can take other people's forms, and we know he is an expert at manipulating Clark. Given that a Fine was flying Martha's plane, and given how plan A--making Clark kill (presumably the real) Lionel last week didn't work, Fine now realizes the best way to get Clark NOT to kill Lex is try to convince him TO kill him. Which means it wasn't Lionel being all sanctimonious, it was Fine. Did anyone else have this theory?

THINGS THAT MADE ME GO WTF:

Why the hell is Chloe running around randomly in traffic, other than to deliberately put her in danger? And who the hell is going to save the day with Clark trapped in the Phantom Zone, Lana? Everybody else seems to be down for the count.

THINGS THAT MADE ME SQUEE LIKE A CRAZY FANGIRL:

Um, pretty much everything else? Starting with the cool "alien invasion" spaceship shadows/horse spooking, followed by Lana and Lex waking up together (Hooboy!!!), and then Lex getting possessed and taking off for the field, and Lana chasing after him in a wonderful reversal of that scene in "Reckoning".

And speaking of echoing pivotal series scenes, that shot of Lex trembling in the field was a *wonderful* echo of his scene in the cornfield in the Pilot. That scene where Lex got sucked into the spaceship was awesome, and Lana's reaction convinced me more than anything else so far that she really loves him. And by the way, KK was REALLY on her A game tonight. I've never seen her do a better acting job--especially this scene, and the scene where Lex returns and tells her about his powers, and her confrontation with Clark--she was fantastic in all of those scenes. Oh, and the scene with Chloe, too, where she blames herself for Lex getting involved. I'm telling you, I could get really invested in Lexana--it's giving us the most interesting Lana of the entire series. I love how Lana's reactions to the alien kidnapping and to Lex's return show *both* her extreme fear of the aliens *and* her loyalty and willing to embrace someone she loves as long as he is honest with her.


Oh, and that scene with Clark? Amazing. Just amazing. Speaking of rifts, talk about a really good reason for a Clana rift: he really did owe it to her to tell her what was happening with Lex. This wasn't just his secret now, it affected everyone. And I'm very glad that the secret that turned her away from him wasn't *his* secret but information about Lex. That whole scene was just marvellous.

What does everyone else think, concerning when exactly Zod was completely controlling Lex? Because when Lex says to Lana "How could I keep something like this from the person I care about most," it was of course the perfect Lexian thing to say to her, whether it was sincere or manipulation--but it also felt a little fake to me, and I did wonder if Zod was already influencing him then. What the hell Zod would want with Lana, I have *no* idea. But he didn't reveal that he wasn't Lex on the roof, so I guess he does want her for something.

Part of the reason I want to know what people think about when Zod was in control of Lex is that it affects how I read the Lex/Clark confrontation scene. That was wonderful, and I loved that Lex finally got to say onscreen what people have been writing in fanfic for years--I'm just not sure he was completely in the driver's seat, even before he got zapped.

And obviously I have no fears that Lex, Lois, or Martha are really dead. And I'm pretty sure Chloe won't die this particular way. But I really do wonder how the hell they're going to get out of this next season!

Oh, and I forgot to mention. Chlark kiss! Actually pretty hot! Next season really does look like it's going to be Chlark v. Lexana. That should be fun!

Wow, I can't wait to rewatch this, but first I'm going to go read what everyone else thought.

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2006-05-12 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Becky, I wish I believed that Lionel was trying to be a better person, for real, and failing because, well, he's Lionel. Because honestly I love the old MB, and I hate his almost certain death in the future at the hands of Lex. And weren't you suggesting last week that maybe he's making an alliance with Clark because he knows who to ally with? I can definitely agree with that.

But what I'm afraid of (unless the writers are actually more brilliant than I think, and Lionel really *is* Jor-El who actually isn't Jor-El but ZOD) is that they're just flipping Lex and Lionel. Now that Lex is in charge of Luthorcorp and has symbolically replaced his father (and there have been a number of scenes showing that --like last week, Lex impatient to get on the helicopter while Lionel was trying to talk to him, mirrored some scene in season 1 perfectly, only it was Lionel trying to get on the helicopter), then Lionel gets to be the one all ambiguous and striving for goodness, and Lex is just pure evil.

And that particular reversal will drive me batty, if it turns out to be true and not just a deep Lionellian or Zodian plot.

[identity profile] sadface.livejournal.com 2006-05-12 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that reversal would be terrible. I totally agree.

I'm making quite a few great judgement leaps in my ideas for Lionel, mostly because I can't cope with whats going on with him. Don't even get me started on other people's reaction to him, (I mean, how many of them did he actively *attempt murder* on. WTF is with Lois being all into Martha dating him?).

I like to think he's all good now because then other people are justified in the way they are treating him, trusting him at an arms length because they beleive he can change. (I think I might just have forgiveness and redemption issues with humanity as a whole, so the idea that Lionel goes from complete evil to good appeals to me personally, even if not entirely supported by the text/canon).

(For the most part, I think they (the writers) are simply turning Lionel inorganically good so that when Lex eventually kills him it will be *so* horrific to the other characters.)

[identity profile] norwich36.livejournal.com 2006-05-12 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I like to think he's all good now because then other people are justified in the way they are treating him, trusting him at an arms length because they beleive he can change. (I think I might just have forgiveness and redemption issues with humanity as a whole, so the idea that Lionel goes from complete evil to good appeals to me personally, even if not entirely supported by the text/canon).

I would LOVE if Lionel were redeemed. (But I would want BOTH he and Lex to be redeemed, not Lionel at Lex's expense.)

(For the most part, I think they (the writers) are simply turning Lionel inorganically good so that when Lex eventually kills him it will be *so* horrific to the other characters.)

Yeah, that's probably my biggest fear, with this whole Lionel arc.

[identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com 2006-05-21 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, really interesting comments, Bex! I'd definitely like to go back and look at all the Lionel stuff in context now the season is complete. I must say he's been one of the most baffling and ambiguous characters all season. I do think Lionel is changed--that much I will say. I'm not sure I'm happy about it, but I do think it's interesting. I think I need to rewatch to work out my thoughts any further on that one.