norwich36 | Heroes: Five Years On

I was completely fooled by the Sylar-Nathan thing. I was a little stunned by exactly how dark Nathan had gone--contemplating genocide seems like something of a leap, even though I didn't find it entirely implausible, and if Nathan had indeed embraced Lindermann's perspective I could certainly see him rounding up the other heroes while protecting his own family. Still, I cheered when I realized it wasn't really him, since I'm sure we're not getting that future. Some other depressing future, possibly, but not that particular one.

I also felt vindicated in my Hiro-Ando OTPness. Without Ando, Hiro becomes embittered and obsessive. *Pets him* I'm a little afraid that Ando's going to end up dying anyway--that's my guess as to the secret future Hiro whispered to him--but I was happy to see how important he was to Hiro. And Hiro's reactions to future Hiro amused the hell out of me: I scare me! Hee!!

I hated Matt with a fiery passion, but we were supposed to, and his actions certainly seem like a logical outgrowth of the path he's on now, especially if he played any role in the transfer of Ted's powers to Peter and the explosion that blew up the city. I can definitely see him rounding up the dangerous ones, and the deal with Bennett to let the harmless ones go is very interesting indeed. (I HATED Bennett's new glasses, btw, even though I realized they were there to emphasize the passage of time. I kind of loved he was running the underground railroad up until the point I realized he was deliberately turning some of the heroes in so they'd turn a blind eye to him, and then I was very disenchanted.)

I suspected Mohinder was going to get to be the one to save the day, and I suppose it was nice that he got to be the hero for once--but mostly I was very amused at the way Sylar had been playing him the *whole* time (and possibly sleeping with him in Nathan's body? Was I the only one who went there? Because physically that does it a lot more for me, and also the mindfuck factor is just incredibly creepy and wrong and kind of hot).

And speaking of creepy and wrong and kind of hot: I notice that Peter ended up with Nathan's ex-lover, in that classic "two straight male protagonists triangulating their desire for each other symbolically by having sex with the same woman" kind of way.

I suppose, if I were to think analytically rather simply reporting my emotional responses, I'd say what this episode revealed was that after extreme loss, most of the heroes either (A) reverted to their old patterns to cope with life (so Nikki is still stripping, even though she clearly is the boss of the place she works in; Matt has returned to law enforcement and rounding up the bad guys with a vengeance; Mohinder has slipped back into the role of research scientist and consultant) or else (B)they've embraced caricatured visions of their ideal selves (Nathan, the president, protecting the world, but in this case from monsters he created himself--and I suspect Nathan did play some role in that before Sylar took over his life; Hiro as a hardened killer desparately trying to unravel the past; Peter still protecting people (Nikki) but basically a drop-out from life; Bennett still acting as protector, of Claire and others, but betraying as much as he protects.) I wonder if any of the character things we've learned here are going to end up being significant, now that the reset button has been pushed?

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The thing that had me suss was not the genocide (hee! I'm used to my characters advocating that... *pets Lee*) but the fact that he was so damn convinced he had Mohinder in his thrall. ;-) That's waaay more Sylar-y than Nathan-y.

You know that I hated the Ando bit

I hated Matt with a fiery passion
Ohh, me too. Though I still preferred him bad than his usual boring 'good' self. It just solidified for me the fact that Matt is a dumb chump no matter what reality we're in.

and possibly sleeping with him in Nathan's body? Was I the only one who went there? Because physically that does it a lot more for me, and also the mindfuck factor is just incredibly creepy and wrong and kind of hot
Haha, great minds! As with the incest... I've instigated 'incest watch' on my journal. :-)

I like your points A and B a lot and concur with them. *nods*

Ooh, you picked up on the Nathan/Sylar thing before the reveal? You are very SMART.

I agree with you about Matt being more interesting in this ep; I just didn't like him. :D

And yeah...you know, it's a good thing they didn't actually cast Adrian Pasdar as Sylar originally, because then I'd have to be very very sad when he gets killed. But even the little bit we got was AMAZING.

I only just clued on. It was when he asked Mohinder to commit genocide but they didn't give us an actual background reason why Nathan would think Mohinder was this devoted to him (after all, Mo had been arguing against it all ep). I just thought 'that sounds like Sylar... OH.'

It's a good thing they didn't actually cast Adrian Pasdar as Sylar originally, because then I'd have to be very very sad when he gets killed.
OMG, I would have been ALL about Sylar then. Sylar's a fun villain anyway, but cast Adrian in that role and he'd be giving Lex a run for his money as my favourite villain.

D:

Stop being mean to Matt!

Really?! You like Matt?

I love Matt, he's one of my favourites. On a basic level I love his devotion to his family and how he's just not very good at what he does but dammit he tries so hard and on another level I think out of all the Heroes his is the power that's the most easy to lead him into being a villian. I imagine his struggle to deal with it is much more real that most of the others (except maybe Niki/Jessica, I guess).

I love him for stealing the diamonds and then giving them to his wife as a present everyone always seems so well rounded and make the right choice whereas he makes the wrong choice but for the right reasons.

Ohhh, it's partly your thing where you like the ordinary people that struggle, not the superhumanly talented! *clicks* And while Matt does have a power, it's a power that's hard to deal with and is not directly empowering--it's not like being invulnerable or super-strong or something. I agree that it's a struggle, but his bad decisions have just annoyed me, but 'the wrong choice for the right reasons' is a good way of phrasing it to sell him to me...

Will do.

I actually love Grunberg, so even though I am often annoyed with Matt's plotlines, I usually don't hate him. But he killed Mr. Bennett!
I love Mr. Bennett!

I really loved Matt in the last two episodes, however--especially when he was talking down nuclear Ted.

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