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Dreamwidth?
So I've been playing around with the idea of buying a seed account at Dreamwidth when they go up for sale on April 30, since apparently this is the only time ever they will be selling permanent accounts, but the fact that only a few people on my f-list seem to even know about the project makes me question whether it's worth shelling out that much money. So: a poll.
[Poll #1375329]
For those of you who checked the last radio button, here are some good resources to read about the project:
Links to a bunch of posts explaining why this project was undertaken--see especially this one , in which![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
synechdochic explains why she undertook this project; Dreamwidth's wiki page; a post explaining how Dreamwidth is different than other fan-run journaling sites ; a post by cathexys about why dreamwidth is right for her ; and a post by zvi_likes_tv about getting started on Dreamwidth , for those lucky enough to have closed beta accounts.
[Poll #1375329]
For those of you who checked the last radio button, here are some good resources to read about the project:
Links to a bunch of posts explaining why this project was undertaken--see especially this one , in which
synechdochic explains why she undertook this project; Dreamwidth's wiki page; a post explaining how Dreamwidth is different than other fan-run journaling sites ; a post by cathexys about why dreamwidth is right for her ; and a post by zvi_likes_tv about getting started on Dreamwidth , for those lucky enough to have closed beta accounts.
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Anyway, I just wanted to point out that while we expect fannish people to be among our earliest adopters, the site is not for fandom. It's for everybody. Personally, I have never read or written fic in my life and can't really tell you what the fascination is with putting Daniel and Jack in the same room together, and I am half-owner! :)
If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Otherwise, it was nice meeting you, and I'll be on my way now!
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If/when someone offers me an invite code I'll totally sign my name up - I certainly don't want to be left behind. But I'm personally really happy here. I like LJ a lot and I don't have any issues with the organisation (like a lot of other fans do), but I'm here as part of fandom so ultimately I'll do whatever everyone else does, no matter how much I'd rather resist change. :P
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I actually am not unhappy with LJ at the moment, though I do wonder if that could suddenly change yet again. I like the philosophy behind dreamwidth, and a few people I like a lot are permanently migrating there, but I think fandom as a whole is pretty lazy and settled in its ways unless deliberately prodded. I'm going to buy a paid account to support the site, but I suspect unless something happens I'll use it about as much as I use my IJ account, which is about once every 3 months.
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Not that I'm concerned at this stage that lessening my/our ongoing financial worth to Dreamwidth will mean we'll get put on the back burner for the people running Dreamwidth (after all, if I got the same vibe from them that we've gotten from LJ the last few years, I wouldn't even consider moving over at all) - but given that I now can, I'd like to support the site more in the long run if we end up staying there long term. I'd say to hell with it, buy a permanent account, and just continue to invest in goodies for friends and other ongoing ways to financially support them, buut... I know myself too well. Good intentions will turn into one of those things I kept meaning to do but somehow forgot about if I have the convenience of constant extra features for myself, heh. I figure there are probably quite a few people hoping to snag a permanent account anyway, so they won't have any trouble selling as many as they need/want to.
So while, yes, of course my long term use will be determined by how successfully we built a community there, I'm hopeful about that building effort, and my account choice isn't really reflective of how committed I am to the service. I'd also really, really like to migrate completely and leave livejournal behind altogether. *crosses fingers*
eta: also, after reading the comments, my two cents are that while I don't expect the userbase will be as diverse as it is here (at least not for quite some time, aside from perhaps other niche groups that are invested in having a friendlier home like fandom is invested in it), I'm not too concerned because I'm pretty much on livejournal for the fandom. Given that they've stated that a more diverse userbase is necessary for the site to be around for a long time, it's not something I'm too concerned about happening. If fandom ends up having a higher chunk of the userbase than we have here though, that won't bother me at all! :P Also that, yes, it'll take some patience for us to really rebuilt the community feel there and get our bearings. I'm more hopeful for it happening though, because this seems like a bazillion times better option that IJ, GJ, JF, etc., which all failed because there was no incentive for the stragglers to go join the initial masses that grabbed accounts there and considered moving.
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I don't know if I want to migrate completely. I don't even know if I want fandom as a whole to migrate completely. Just the thought of what that means to all my delicious bookmarks gives me a massive headache. But on the other hand, I would like to be free of the whims of our capitalist overlords.
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Do you think people will as a whole destroy old content? I would expect more people just to start building new content (as well as migrating old content over for archive purposes) on DW instead. It would be my ideal to leave LJ behind for good, and move to a new 'home', and I must admit I'd be willing to sacrifice delicious bookmarks if it came down to it. But while some might delete their old content here, I imagine most people won't. I mean, it kind of goes against the grain to destroy all those links unless you really have to, y'know?
edit: hell. I should just give up and walk away right now. *headdesk*
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Unfortunately I have found that a lot of folks who migrated to IJ from HP and RPS fandoms did in fact delete their LJ content, so yeah, I think that might happen, especially because a lot of the folks most motivated to move are doing so because they hate LJ. (And I have over 1000 delicious bookmarks now, most of them linking to LJ entries, so...ouch.)
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If the move to DW is successful, I expect it'll be a slow move that's motivated by pull factors (which is why I'm hopeful about DW in the first place, because I think the site sounds appealing now independent of LJ, not just because LJ stuffed up and we want to get away.) I think a lot of fandom on LJ still has some element of push factor motivating our interest in what DW could end up being, but for most of us it just wasn't enough. So I think pull factors (mostly how much of the fan community goes there, the appeal of the owners there as far as our feeling of home and safety goes, and the appeal of the feature tweaks) are really going to be the deciding factor, and when the deciding factor isn't actually totally or even majorly about LJ, I would expect far less in the way of content deletion.
So, I wouldn't say content deletion won't happen, but I (personally) can't imagine it'll happen on a totally devastating scale. I think a lot of the people who are more invested in depriving LJ of content than they are in maintaining our sense of history and connection, even if they're only interested in maintaining it for long enough for people to start redirecting and rebuilding their connections to the content in new places, are very push motivation. And any devastation will be a slow process that there'll be time to fix, because a lot of those people already left for IJ and deleted their content, and I expect the remaining people will need time to be confident that the pull factors will still be enticing and stable three or six months down the road, let along years later.
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I think it's going to be the next big migration, although it will certainly take time for people to make the transition.
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And though part of me wants to be free of our LJ overlords, as I said to someone above, the thought of what a widespread fannish migration to DW would do to my delicious bookmarks makes me cry, honestly. (I was hoping the Archive of our Own would mitigate that a little, but I'm starting to wonder if they're *ever* going to open to the general public).
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interoperability is what will drive me.
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http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Compatible_clients
I didn't find info on rss feeds in a quick search, but I suppose you really need to test them to see how they work anyway.
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